Engineer to order: what ETO means and where the engineering hours go

Engineer to order (ETO) means the product is designed, or adapted, for each order before anyone builds it. A configure-to-order product is built instead from options that were engineered once. This guide puts ETO, CTO and MTO in one table. It then follows the engineering hours a plant spends before an order exists, and shows how repeat engineering becomes rules.

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What engineer to order means

In an engineer-to-order business, the design is not finished when the customer asks for a price. Someone has to size, lay out or adapt the product for that order, and the engineering becomes part of the lead time. The bill of materials and the routing often exist only after that work is done.

ERP vendors draw the same line. Oracle’s JD Edwards documentation describes engineer to order as production that starts from raw materials and components, with no predefined options. Oracle’s cloud documentation describes configure to order as ordering and fulfilling a configured item.

ETO sits at one end of a range. At the other end, a make-to-stock plant builds a catalogue item before anyone orders it. Between them sit assemble to order, configure to order and make to order. They differ in how much of the product is fixed before the order arrives.

ETO, CTO, MTO, ATO and MTS in one table

The labels describe when the design is fixed and what the customer is allowed to change. Many plants run more than one of them, often on the same floor and sometimes within one product family.

StrategyWhen the design is fixedWhat the customer choosesEngineering on each orderExample
Make to stock (MTS)Before any orderA catalogue item and a quantityNoneStandard mounting brackets kept on the shelf
Assemble to order (ATO)Before any order, module by moduleA combination of stocked modulesNoneA control station assembled from stocked sub-assemblies
Configure to order (CTO)Before any order, as options and the rules that combine themOptions inside the rulesNone, while the rules cover the orderA conveyor section in a listed width, length and drive position
Make to order (MTO)Before the order, as a released drawingThe item, the quantity and the dateLittle or noneA machine guard built to a drawing the customer already approved
Engineer to order (ETO)During the quote and after the orderRequirements rather than optionsYes, on every orderAn equipment skid laid out for one customer’s machines and floor space

Configure to order and engineer to order are the two that get confused. In CTO, someone engineered the options and the rules once, and each order is a selection inside them. In ETO, the order carries requirements, and an engineer turns them into a design. A plant moves an order from one column to the other whenever the customer asks for something the rules do not cover.

Engineer to order examples

The same product family can be CTO for one order and ETO for the next. Take a conveyor section. If the customer picks a width, a length and a drive position from your list, the order is configure to order. If the conveyor has to route around a column in an existing building and hand off to another supplier’s line, it is engineer to order.

These are typical ETO orders in a plant that makes equipment:

Where the engineering hours go before an order exists

In an ETO plant, much of the engineering happens during the quote. The customer wants a price, a lead time and a drawing that shows the product fits. To answer, someone sizes the main components, draws a layout and estimates the bill of materials. Someone also checks that the shop can build it.

That work is spent on every quote, including the ones you lose. It rarely appears in a cost report, because there is no job number yet to book the hours against. The engineering manager sees it anyway, because quotes wait for the same few people who also release drawings for orders already won.

Measure it before you change anything. For one month, record each quote that needed engineering, the hours it took and whether it became an order. With those records, you know what the quote stage costs and which of its steps repeat from one quote to the next.

What the quote stage has to produce

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Engineer to order vs make to order

Make to order means the plant waits for an order before it builds, but the design already exists. The drawing, the bill of materials and the routing are released, and the order adds a quantity and a date. Engineer to order means the design itself waits for the order.

The difference shows up first in the lead time. In ETO, it includes the engineering and the customer’s approval of the drawings before any material is bought. It shows up again in costing. A make-to-order job can be costed from a standard, while an ETO job is estimated before its bill of materials exists.

It also shows up in the ERP. A system built for make to order expects a released bill at order entry. An ETO plant has to quote, take the order and start buying long-lead parts while the bill is still being designed.

How repeat engineering becomes rules

Read the engineering on your last twenty quotes and sort each step into two piles. One pile holds the work that was new for that customer. The other holds the same calculation or layout, done again with different inputs.

The second pile is repeat engineering. Each item in it is a rule nobody has written down. Examples are the frame size for a given load and the number of supports for a given length. Once a rule is written and tested against past orders, a configurator can apply it. That part of the quote then behaves like configure to order.

Step 1Collect past quotes for one familyPull twenty or more recent quotes for one product family, with the drawings, the bills of materials and the prices that went out.
Step 2Separate new work from repeat workFor each engineering step, note what changed between orders and what was calculated the same way again.
Step 3Write the repeats as rulesTurn each repeat into a table, a formula or a constraint, using the plant’s own numbers and its standard parts.
Step 4Test the rules on past ordersRun the rules on the past quotes. Each bill, price and drawing should match what went out, or the difference gets an explanation.
Step 5Quote covered orders like CTOOrders inside the rules get a configured quote. Orders outside them go to an engineer, with the reason named.

The engineers stay in charge of the rules. They decide which steps a rule can take over and which stay with a person, and they change a rule when the product changes. The configurator only applies what they wrote.

If your quotes already run through an Excel builder, part of the work is done. The rules sit in its lookup tables and formula chains, and reading the workbook formula by formula writes them down. The guide to product configurator software covers that step. CPQ for manufacturing covers how the price, the model and the drawing come out of the same rules.

ERP and software for engineer-to-order manufacturing

An ERP for custom manufacturing has to handle work that starts before the design is final. Check these four things against the system you run, or the one you are evaluating:

Engineer-to-order software around the ERP falls into a few groups. CPQ and configurator tools quote the orders the rules cover. CAD with design automation produces the models and drawings. Project tools schedule the engineering itself. A plant rarely needs all of them on day one.

When no packaged tool fits, a module can be built beside the ERP the plant keeps, reading its exports rather than replacing it. Custom manufacturing software covers how that is built and who approves what it drafts.

Where to start

  1. Pick one product family that you quote often and win only some of the time.
  2. Measure its quote stage for a month: the quotes, the engineering hours on each, and which became orders.
  3. Collect twenty past quotes with their drawings and prices, and sort the engineering into new and repeat work.
  4. Write the repeats as rules and test them on those past quotes until every difference is explained.
  5. Quote the covered orders from the rules, with a named person approving each one before it goes out.

ThriveAI builds that last step as a module on a workspace that holds your data. The rules come from your builder, the price from your own costs, and the model and quote drawing from your template. The AI CPQ offer describes the first four weeks.

Questions people ask

What is an example of an engineer-to-order product?
An equipment skid laid out for one customer’s machines and floor space is a typical example. So is a machine guard drawn for a customer’s existing machine, or a conveyor system routed through an existing building. In each case the design is finished after the order, not before it.
What is the difference between engineer to order and configure to order?
In configure to order, the options and the rules that combine them were engineered once, before any order arrived. In engineer to order, the design is created or adapted for each order. The same product family can be configure to order for one order and engineer to order for the next.
What is the difference between make to order and engineer to order?
Make to order waits for an order before building, but the design is already released. Engineer to order waits for the order before finishing the design, so engineering and drawing approval become part of the lead time.
Is engineer to order the same as custom manufacturing?
Not quite. Custom manufacturing often means making a part to the customer’s own drawing, which is make to order. Engineer to order means your own engineers design or adapt the product for the order.
Can an engineer-to-order business use a product configurator?
Yes, for the part of each order that repeats. Once repeat engineering is written as rules and tested on past orders, a configurator can quote the orders those rules cover. Orders outside them still go to an engineer.

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